Xanterra pre employment drug testing

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Permalink Reply by Brenda on March 19, 2009 at 7:27pm

I have to agree. advertising a drug habbit is really not cool, and I think that those out there that have no problem with advertising it need to find another place to go. It's actually pretty damn sad. They can come up with all the excuses in the world like "well it doesn't impair like alcohol" and "I only do it once in a while". So damn what!!!!! when you go into work and others gotta cover for you because you had a few hundred cells die and you put others at risk then your just plain foolish. Don't worry Christine as a ranger you know it will all catch up to them eventually. I think they need to get tougher on it. I wish it didn't cost so much to test and most employers would test more frequently. Like a neighbor I had, nice guy but stupid as heck. he went on an interview and had to get drug tested. I told him you can kiss that job goodbuy, He insisted that he knows this remedy and it would be no problem. I said ok Dave but when you fail the pee test don't tell me your troubles. a week later I finally asked him well you didn't get it did you? he said no he didn't. I asked him why and he said the drug test.. all I did was shake my head and walk away.

Permalink Reply by ken horner on March 20, 2009 at 11:44am

toooo funny, it's not even worth saying......

Permalink Reply by ken horner on March 20, 2009 at 5:12am

what an attitude, lighten up. I didn't say a word about my using anything. A bit of kidding around and having some fun.... get over yourself, this is my site too. I do believe that an employer shouldn't make judgements from what is said on here. Just like you just did. I kid around a bit and all of a sudden I'm a doper.

Permalink Reply by Lea on March 19, 2009 at 11:34pm

I dunno about the actual drug testing but I do know some guys who got fired (and put into the park jail) because NPS found pot in their room. If you're caught with that on federal lands the results are much more serious than if you're caught with that elsewhere. Just a warning. (Is getting high really worth it? Doesn't seem like it to me.)

Also I just skimmed the messages and I have to say that I agree that posting about this sort of thing is not really a good idea. Employers do read these boards. (The other day I went to a seminar about breaking into a certain work field and a guy from Apple Computers gave a speech. He said that about 70 to 75% of employers will now google a potential candidate to see what comes up on that candidates Social Networks. Just something to keep in mind.)

Permalink Reply by Dominic on March 20, 2009 at 11:20am

You have got to be kidding me, none of the regular workers on here are "druggies" We are competent functioning professional seasonal workers who do there jobs well. Once in a while some crack head will slip thru and end up working in a park but they are not gonna last long if they have a serious drug problem. I completely agree to drug testing for certain jobs. Your fear is clearly fueled by your ignorance of drugs. I have worked as a youth drug counselor and have studied the affects of drugs and process of addiction. I a drug test is likely not even gonna catch your crack head, meth addict or cocaine feign unless they used in the last 24-48 hours. But it will deny someone who has even been at a party with alot of weed smoke. And yes from my experience I dont think weed is the biggest problem in the world. Accidents are not caused by someone smoking a joint, weed does not impair you or alter your mind like Alcohol and methamphetamines. Does that mean loser stoners that have no ambition should be hired, no , if they cant function in the real world there not gonna make it anyways. I just dont believe drug testing for all staff is necessary in some of these jobs. When an employer is making me pee in a cup every few weeks and searching my room for whatever that just makes me think that the employer thinks we are all scum and has no trust of its employees. If someones drug use is interfering with there work performance they will easily be fired for not functioning on the job. I dont use drugs and hardly drink, and im not a hypocrite who enjoys a bottle of wine gets all buzzed and thinks thats any different then getting high. If you know someone with a drug problem dont look down your nose at them. There are likely dealing with some more serious issues and using drugs to self medicate. Shunning someone for there drug use rather then helping them with there real problems is only gonna make the situation worse. Unless you have battled with drugs yourself or lived with family and friends fighting addiction dont be so judgmental. Get off your high horse thinking your are better then someone with drug issues everybody has there problems and vices, you might use food or shopping as your escape. I have known some of the most amazing successful people that have battled with a drug problem and went on to live a healthy life. I dont think we should take drug use to lightly, but im not gonna get my pantys in a bunch cause somebody said they smoked a j waling thru the park.

Permalink Reply by ken horner on March 20, 2009 at 11:45am

Thanks Dominic, you put it better than I could've.

Permalink Reply by Kimberly Barnes on March 20, 2009 at 11:38am

This is my first season.. but the packet does state that employees will be drug tested?? This has become a pretty heated discussion. Unfortunately, the arguements for and against marjuania have been going on since the dawn of government legislation concern its use. Nothing is going to be said here that hasn't already been said before.. myself I am not a drug user BUT I do have a live and let live attitude. If it isn't harming any innocent people I don't consider it my business. As for employers reading this site.. it makes perfect sense that they might. I doubt however that they have the free time for it at this busy time in their season??

Permalink Reply by Dominic on March 20, 2009 at 11:59am

I hope my employer sees my attitude on drugs and we can have an educated discussion on drug use and drug testing in the work place. Drugs are much more widespread then you may think I know people that I grew up with that are teachers, cops and doctors that use drugs on a regular basis. I guarantee you have friends and family members who see as perfectly normal people but secretly are regular drug users. I wouldn't doubt that if weekly drug tests were done at every business 30-40% of people would be out of a job.

Permalink Reply by Brenda on March 20, 2009 at 11:59am

Another thing I see is others have different views on the subject and the anger comes out. Example, was just told my points of view were good but my judgment on drug users made him sick. Even though I am not the one to make the accusation at first and even though what I said is just simple facts and no names were even stated in regards to any specific person that works the seasonal world. As Kimberly said this has become heated and has been going on since very early.

Permalink Reply by Dominic on March 20, 2009 at 12:09pm

I said you judgment on people in general makes me sick nothing to do with drugs. I am only a man who am I to judge another man. No other human on this earth is a better or lesser person then myself, God created us all equal.

Permalink Reply by Brenda on March 20, 2009 at 12:18pm

knock it off already. your going all over these board's making statements. You don't don't know my judgment on people and you don't know me.

Permalink Reply by Dominic on March 20, 2009 at 12:29pm

wow when someone makes a judgement on you look how defense you get, if your so strongly against being judged and people sharing there opinions of others stop doing it yourself. I think I already said what I need to. I am know better then you, stop putting other people down.

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